My small cleft was filled with Marines by the time the day moved into late afternoon. I’d finished my letter home, once again extolling the virtues of the local fauna and flora and how the nearly continuous monsoon mist was such a relief from the harsh pounding of the seasonal heavy rain. I left the leeches, foot problems, rotting uniform, and continuous fatigue out of my correspondence. When I finally met my fate in the A Shau Valley, my wife and any later interested parties might wonder how such a mortal tragedy came to be when I’d been traveling through such a scenic and life-filled valley.
The choice to dig in where we were was made by the Gunny. He didn’t even ask my permission or choose to inform me that the Marines were going to make an attempt to stay right where we were for an undetermined time. That news only came to me when I arose from the first real sleep I’d had since I could remember. The mosquitos had eaten me, the leech wounds had bled and there would be more scars. But I’d slept a few hours and I had not dreamt of anything or anywhere. There was no dreaming of any place other than the hell I was in, and I accepted that, but I also welcomed the fact that I didn’t dream of the valley, or even worse atrocities than those I had, and was, already experiencing.
Carruthers had returned to my cleft shelter when the sun was almost down. There he’d encountered first Fusner and then Nguyen, both of whom did not want me aroused from sleep. It hadn’t mattered to Carruthers and, short of violence, there was no way that either Fusner nor Nguyen could stop him.
“What is it?” I asked, trying to find my helmet, that I knew Fusner or one of them would have half-filled with water from somewhere. I had to shave and I had to wash my face, armpits and then the wounds left by the leeches on my torso.
“It’s like I’m dead here, already,” Carruthers said, settling down to sit on the edge of my poncho liner. I bent down, having found the nearly invisible helmet inside the darkened cleft. I washed my face first, then swung my head up and shrugged off the fresh water. It felt wonderful. I didn’t need or want a towel.
“They don’t listen to me about anything,” Carruthers went on. “They’re digging in like we’re staying here, but our orders are to immediately head up the valley to connect with other units coming down the valley.”
“They’re dead,” I said, getting my little Gillette razor out, screwing open the base, and positioning a two-sided blade into the revealed opening. The razor blades were good for two or maybe three shaves, not like back home where I could get four or five.
“Who’s dead?” Carruthers asked.
I shaved away, without a mirror or any other aid. I didn’t care about growing a beard. Shaving made me feel somewhat clean, so I did it every chance I got.
“The battalion coming down the valley had to pass by Hill 975,” I replied. “Hill 975 is rifled through with tunnels and caves. It’s also a resupply center for the whole complex of trails that run up and down this valley. The NVA troops there were unprepared for us, even though we hit them twice. The third time around, that being when the relief battalion passed by, would have been it. They got hit and what remnants there probably are, will be evacuated out. Listen to the combat net or ask Fusner, my radio operator.”
“Hell, you’ve been asleep, they told me,” Carruthers exclaimed. “How in hell would you know?”
“I live here,” I said, washing the lather and whiskers from my face. “I just know. If you live down here long enough then you’ll know too.”
“So, you gave the order to dig in because we can’t go back and we can’t go up the valley either?” Carruthers asked.
“Well, sort of,” I replied, using the C-rations tiny soap bar to work away at my leech wounds.
It was the night coming. I could feel it. The night was the enemy. We had the Starlight Scope, Zippo’s scope, but it was so limited in what it could see that the night belonged to the NVA, and what little we could see was easily blinded by the flares they used, tracers or any other light source, including artillery illumination. The light we got in the night or the night we could see through was all but useless.
We had the Ontos and flechette rounds. We had the never-failing M-60 machine guns with replaceable barrels. We had the Browning thirty caliber on top of the Ontos which was irreplaceable when we could get enough 30-caliber ammunition. The M-60s fired 7.62mm NATO rounds, which was a bit smaller and a bit less powerful than the 30-06 rounds of the Browning.
The fight into the dark was intense. Air had gone home, the A-6 having used up all its ordnance and the propeller jobs running low on fuel. The transition between coming night and the daylight hours was nothing more or less than a building tempo of what might be expected when full dark came along.
The .50 caliber Russian rounds chewed up the berm on both sides of our position. The rounds were useless when they were absorbed into the strange soft rock of the metamorphic rock of the cliff face, but before they encountered that rock surface they could play havoc penetrating the entire earthen berm we depended upon for protection against the NVA onslaught. The enemy wasn’t stupid enough to attempt a frontal assault again. Not against the potential firepower of the M-60s and Ontos together. The company’s 60 mm mortars had been out of ammunition for some time, nothing provided by the ‘inspection tour’ resupply of a few nights before. Kilo Company had brought 81 mm mortars down the face of the cliff but their ammunition supply was exhausted, as well. Everything depended upon the resupply choppers coming in first thing in the morning, but getting to that time of first thing in the morning was going to play hell on the survival of our joined companies.
The early night threat wasn’t normal. I had kind of expected that after the Gunny had reported terrific amounts of non-combat seeming movement in the jungle. The jungle that we’d just gone through, shooting and killing so many, and the same jungle we’d skirted once again to arrive back where we had started days before.
Daylight air strikes were impressive and there had been many of them, but in my heart of hearts, I knew that caves and tunnels dug more than thirty feet down into the muddy jungle surface would remain unaffected by the bombing, napalm and more. The movements reported to the Gunny meant that our semi-fortified position was going to be hit in the night, and hit hard. The NVA had not had the time or the ordnance to mine the clefts along the bottom of the canyon wall. But that didn’t mean they’d left the area open for repossession on our part. It might mean that they’d registered every square foot of the defensive position to fire B-40 rockets, and fire what .50 caliber bullets they’d caged together straight into our position.
The green .50 tracers had started crisscrossing the air above our position prior to dusk. It didn’t have to be dark to see the screaming beer-can size tracers lace themselves from one end of our extended line position to the other. Every Marine, except possibly the newest ones, knew that the rounds weren’t intended to hit anyone. They were intended to let us know what was coming in the night. Air support was winding down or gone altogether, and the enemy knew that. There was no artillery that could reasonably reach them without causing as many deaths of Marines as it might of the NVA. Whatever was going to happen between the enemy and the Marines was going to happen one on one, unit on unit, and Marine on NVA soldier. The advantage was to the force that was larger, better armed and with more staying capability through the night. My Marines and those of Carruthers were equipped and supplied through the night, but would it be enough? The supply coming in, along with the evacuation of dead bodies loaded aboard the empty chopper, would be extra, but would that be enough? The NVA .50 had plenty of ammunition or they wouldn’t be wasting it by setting up some sort of attitude fire, I knew.
Even with the Ontos, how were we supposed to provide covering fire for the CH-46 on the way? The NVA feared the little beast but it would only take one stitching into the side of the chopper by the .50 to destroy the aircraft and the company’s chance for survival.
Normal, machine gun, M-72 or even mortar fire wasn’t going to work, I realized. There was only one weapon I had at my disposal that might work, at least for the time we might need to get the chopper in, unload the supplies and get the dead Marines aboard, and then out of there. It was a dangerous weapon but the cliff provided the clefts that should protect them, under the cut in edge near the ground.
Captain Carruthers left without saying anything further. I sent Hultzer and Piper off to find the Gunny, and also to get my letter home to Jurgens so he could get it aboard one of the choppers. If my plan was to work then timing would be everything, not just with the air-dales coming in but with the Marines in both companies. Unless everyone got under complete cover then there were going to be heavy casualties on our side. The enemy could remain dug in, although their ability to direct any fire on the choppers would be severely limited during the entirety of the defensive display.
The Gunny was back from wherever he’d gone in minutes, Hultzer and Piper trailing behind his radioman like sheep following a shepherd.
“More of your plan, I presume,” the Gunny said, squatting down and lighting a chunk of the composition B. I didn’t reply, instead unlimbering my own canteen holder.
The Gunny had coffee and I wasn’t going to be left out if I could help it.
“They’re not serious yet,” the Gunny said, pouring water from his canteen into his own canteen holder, and then into mine. The coffee came next, the small packets pungent to the nose when first opened. The Gunny had plenty of the precious artificial cream packets, as well, but no sugar. Sugar, outside of morphine, and flechette rounds for the Ontos was the most precious commodity in the company.
“They’ll be in place, waiting for the chopper,” he said, stirring his liquid mix with his big K-Bar knife.
“Our air’s gone home, but the chopper will come in with covering Cobras,” I replied, knowing the Gunny already knew all about what I was saying. “I can use a zone fire arrangement and burn up the 175 supply at the firebase. Zone will give us almost sixty rounds, at two hundred pounds each, in an “X” formation all over the bottom of this part of the valley. All we have to do is hole up under the edge of the cliff where we’re already digging in.”
“Red bag rounds can be four hundred or more meters off,” the Gunny said, sipping some of his coffee while I mixed and heated my own.
“Yes,” I replied, continuing my work.
“That’s it?” The Gunny asked.
I didn’t answer, taking my time stirring my canteen holder over the Gunny’s small but very hot flame.
“Oh, I get it,” the Gunny finally said. “The NVA know about red bag shots. They know where the batteries are. They’ll know that we don’t have a clue about where the rounds will land, and neither will they.”
“Likely,” I answered.
“The air guys are not going to want to fly under that shit,” the Gunny finally said. “Great idea though.”
“True,” I replied but saying no more.
The seconds went by, while I drank my coffee and waited.
“You’re not going to tell them,” the Gunny finally said, his voice low, almost a whisper. “It’s an Army battery. They’ll be up on the arty net but not the Marine combat net. They won’t know about the barrage until they’re flying through it.”
“Likely,” I repeated, beginning to feel as if I was sounding a bit stupid.
“Son of a bitch,” the Gunny said, setting his coffee down. “It’s pure genius, except for the fact that if the pilots and crews figure it out they won’t ever come back to us for the rest of the war.”
“That eventuality would take place tomorrow,” I replied, knowing I could have said ‘yes’ or ‘likely’ again and the Gunny would have gotten the same message but wanting to make sure.
“You’re looking for my approval,” the Gunny said, after several minutes, finishing his coffee and lighting up a cigarette.
I said nothing. Back in the real world, the world of training and Marine discipline and barracks and marching grinders I wouldn’t have needed the Gunny’s approval for anything, but down in the A Shau, with the enemy not only out beyond our line of fire but within it, as well, I needed his approval for just about everything. I also knew that part of my talent was to know that, and then get that approval.
“That’s the whole plan?” the Gunny asked.
I continued to sip my coffee. The Gunny didn’t offer his cigarette, which I’d been hoping he’d do. I didn’t care about the cigarette itself, but his willingness to share it made me feel special in his regard, and I knew it always came with unspoken approval. There was nothing in any training I’d received that had taught about needing or wanting the support of a non-com Gunnery Sergeant. They were supposed to provide that free of charge as part of the game. But I wasn’t in the real world, and it was certainly no game. I was in the A Shau Valley and the reality of the A Shau was its very own thing.
“The choppers come in and you call the fire mission,” the Gunny said, blowing smoke out, ignoring the ever-present mist. “The choppers fly through a possible world of hurt, with rounds exploding all over around them, maybe even hitting one or more of them in the air.”
I nodded, very curtly, not looking at him. A strike of descending artillery round into something as small and moving like a helicopter was extremely unlikely, but the chance was still there.
“They dump their loads, our guys throw the Marine bodies aboard, and the choppers are out of there…or the air and ground Marines all die where they are from stray rounds going off too close.” The Gunny lit a second cigarette, from the remains of the dying first one.
I’d never seen him do that before. When the cigarette was burning he tossed the first butt aside and then held out the second one toward me.
“I knew there was something about you,” he said, very quietly. “You’re playing for all the chips. Again. If the chopper gets hit, it’ll be gone, along with our guys below and waiting. But we’ll be safe and waiting in our cleft pockets until the NVA come back, and then the only target they’ll have is us, and we’ll be down in forces without sufficient supplies. If the chopper makes it then we’re resupplied and fully reinforced. What do we have to cover the bet?”
“The Ontos,” I replied, handing his cigarette back.
“When the barrage is over, we fire all the flechette rounds we have left, slowly, one after another until they’re gone. That’s our fallback position and cover for getting the supplies back here if the choppers were able to offload them and the guys capable of getting them back in short order. The rounds won’t do that much damage but it’s vital that we redirect the enemy’s full attention back to us and not to the Marines humping the stuff back. If the resupply works then we have more flechettes to go on.”
“That’s if no round hits a chopper,” the Gunny replied, snapping away the second cigarette butt.
I got up and tried to stretch, feeling the cracking of scabs trying to form over my leech wounds. The chopper being hit or not hit didn’t really matter. It might have mattered earlier in my tour but now I accepted the fact fully that I had to fight to stay alive in the instant I was in. The future had to present its own options. I could only play the cards as they were dealt, and that thought made me sigh and frown at the same time. I was constantly reducing the combat back into a board game, but if the A Shau was to be compared to a board game then it had to be Monopoly, except the board had no names on any of the properties and the price for each piece of real estate was always paid in life and blood, not phony play money.
I slipped back inside my cleft, hoping that nobody would find me before the trouble began. Whatever rest I could find would be inside the cleft. Fusner eased in behind me, and I was glad to once again feel his silent presence. A shot of emotion stiffened me briefly, as I lay down, but I quickly shifted my mind away from the fact that Zippo wasn’t there too. I looked over at Nguyen’s shiny black eyes, visible like a cat’s in the low light. I wasn’t alone. I wondered if he felt the same. The Montagnard was as silent, since the passing of Stevens so long ago, as he was mysterious and supportive of me. I had no real idea why, although my thoughts about that never ended.
Carruthers came crashing in, tossing the poncho cover aside, pushing past Fusner. He was forced to his knees by the descending rock roof of the cleft. Nguyen seemed to disappear at the captain’s dramatic entrance, although there didn’t seem to be enough space for him to disappear in.
“Zone fire with the 175s right down on our own position? Are you crazy?” he yelled. “Those things will tear us apart, even under here.”
“They’re artillery rounds, captain,” I explained, keeping my voice flat and educational, “they’re not magical weapons or instruments of ultimate power. The rounds impacting will weigh about two hundred pounds, of which only forty pounds or so in each is composed of explosives. Nothing as marginally powerful as they are can reach us under here, because the one-seventy-five’s lack a concrete piercing fuse.”
“I knew that,” Carruthers said, after a slight delay, rubbing his forehead with his right hand inside the nearly dark cleft.
“Yes sir,” I replied, knowing he would not be able to see the slight smile creasing my lips.
“Do you want to be here under the cliff or go on the reinforced patrol to pick up the supplies, sir?” I asked, wishing I had one of the Gunny’s cigarettes.
“Who’s leading the patrol?” He replied, giving me the answer, I expected.
If he was going with the Marines to intercept the choppers he, the ranking officer of both companies, would be leading the patrol, and he would have stated that.
“Jurgens, one of our platoon commanders,” I said, after giving him plenty of time, “unless the Gunny or I decide to lead. The problem with that is, of course, that each platoon responds in the dark better to its own.”
“They’re our Marines, however, one and all,” Carruthers replied.
I inhaled deeply, and then let out one long breath before responding. “I think it might be more accurate to say that we are their Marines, sir.”
Jim, I finished Army Infantry Officer Basic Corse at Fort Benning and was scheduled to go straught to Jungle School in Panama and then straight to Nam. In my last week of IOBC I severely injured my left ankle and my orders were changed while I recuperated. Long story short, I never made it to Nam and I have mixed feelings about that. Would I have been killed or severely wounded? How would I react to the pressure of leading grunts under fire? I’d like to think I’d do a good job of leading my men, as I did well in leadership roles in non-combat assignments. Your writing gives me a taste for the hell hole I missed and what true leadership requires of an officer, whether Marine or Army.
Statistically, you would likely have not seen combat. You would have been in the zone though.
If you did see combat then you would, indeed, have had every likelihood of being hit.
But going for you wasn’t in the cards.
Those were good cards…and the only negative leftover is that you feel you might have proven yourself or become one of us.
Well, reading my books I hope you are a bit dissuaded from the idea that combat is manly or develops the human psyche.
It does not. A good kid goes over and comes back a good kid with a shitload of problems. And the chances of being in pieces is great.
Most combat vets think non-combat guys are great. Be happy. You are here in one piece and living and that’s wonderful…
Semper fi
Jim
CPT Bud Meadows. I was a 0311 Marine grunt that spent my tour in the quea son valleys and mountains, I would wish the hell we went threw on no man.
Nor I Bill. Yes, those of us who plied those valleys of death…on nobody….
Semper fi,
Jim
Joined the army in 72 at age 17, went to ft hood for a year and then to Okinawa.
I missed the big show and from reading this, I feel guilty for not being there and at the same time blessed for missing it. I have many friends that did make the show. Some came home, some didn’t. Vietnam vets have my ultimate respect.
God bless and keep writing
Thanks Richard, much appreciate your own story and the compliment to continue…
Helps more than you might think.
Semper fi,
Jim
No need to feel guilty! Take those cards you are dealt in life, and deal with them, not the cards we were dealt. There is a big current running here with Jim’s writing. Deal with the cards you are dealt, that’s how you survive….
Nicely put David and I much appreciate…
Semper fi,
Jim
After I read each chapter I mean to leave a comment.
But words always fail me, what can someone who thankfully never experienced anything like this ever say.
I have always been interested in military history, particularly WWII to present and have read everything I ever got my hands on.
Never have I read a story like yours, you bring the reader along with you to a place we never could imagine existed.
Thank you for sharing.
I wish more people were interested in history and would read your story, especially before sending our youth into battle.
War may be necessary at times, and we should always be prepared, but it needs to be our very last resort.
And we owe it to our military to let them win and get the hell out.
Unfortunately we don’t seem to be very good at the win and leave part.
What a terrific comment, so real and so authentic in emotion. I much appreciate reading your opinion of the work and the fantastic
compliments you have written on here for everyone, including me, to see…
Semper fi,
Jim
Mr Strauss I believe you need to make a correction on “hill 175” as I recall it should be hill 975
Absolutely true!!! Thank you for that help.
Semper fi,
Jim
What a noted difference in Jr’s attitude and understanding of the reality of the valley since his first days there. Survival is key above all else.
I know you’re busy James, but please don’t wait so long between chapters !! 🙂
SEMPER Fi
Next one is about ready to go SGT, believe it or not. Attitude and hesitation slow me more than the
physical part of the writing. This site actually keeps me going when there is no way I could have persevered alone…
Semper fi, and thank you…
Jim
Marines flew the Ch 46, not the Ch 47. Your illustration is wrong. Spent a little time as a door gunner with HML367, flying the UH-1E. Love the narrative, as I,like so many,have stories about the A Shau Valley.
Thanks for the knowledge.
Images are chosen for effect not always for accuracy.
However, the chopper pictured is MRC CH-46A through CH-46D
The mood was set
The printed books do not have images
Semper fi, Jim
Another great read James…and it was a very long time coming…I know this must be extremely hard for you but again I would like to say that I think your writing is therapeutic…you are doing so much for so many by telling this true story…you are opening eyes, opening old wounds, but allowing some to heal at the same time…I just hope the good Lord lifts your pain once you are done, for having written your story, like your “sins” being lifted with baptism…I would have been proud to serve such a leader as yourself and I, like everyone else, anxiously await the next instalment.
What a great comment Mark. Thanks for your own commentary about you and some of how it is you came through too.
The compliments mean a whole lot to me as I home in on getting to the end, or at least the end of the beginning…
Semper fi,
Jim
Welcome back, Jim. Every now and then I think about you and the book. I am glad to be able to read another chapter. I feel like I am there with you. I can smell the mud and feel the rain and the leeches with you. You are able to put us right there in the midst of it all. I eagerly await the next chapter, but with dread for what may be coming. Keep up the good work, sir. Although I didn’t go through what you and your Marines did I feel as though I am right there. God Bless you, Sir.
Army, 1970.
Thanks Harvel, for sharing what you shared about your own life and the compliment you give me in the wording of your comment.
Smeper fi,
Jim
James, thanks once again for another special installment. I’ve been here since day one. I read all of the comments and don’t hardly know what say its all been said and so much better than I am capable of. So I’ll just say thank you so much and may God be with you as you finish the task.Simper Fi
Thanks Don. You said that pretty well, indeed.
A lot of great comments on here and yours is one of them. thank you.
Semper fi,
Jim
I went back to the very beginning and started over after the last chapter LT. When I saw that you had put a new one up, I finished up the couple I had left, breathing and savoring every word in like one of the Gunny’s smokes. I got a bad feeling about what’s next Sir, I cannot begin to imagine what this is doing to you. We’ve all known that this ride’s gonna come to an end eventually, I for one am filled with dread for a couple of reasons. Semper Fi LT.
thanks for the great comment Mike and I really appreciate the compliments written into it.
Semper fi,
Jim
I found it was amazing how many rounds did not go off when I was pin down for 3 nights. Air was great for the day but nights all we have was artillery thank God for that nice job TL good to see you’re back fred
Thans for that piece of information. In truth, I remained unaware of how many shots did not go off, as I was calling in such a high volume.
My spotting rounds never failed me, though…
Semper fi, and thanks for the welcome back…
Jim
I started reading in the middle of this and I didn’t want to get the books until I, you finished writing. But I don’t want to take a chance of waiting too long and losing track of you, so I will order the books and set them aside until you finish. Love what you are doing
Thanks Glen. I much appreciate that vote of confidence and thanks for buying my books.
Semper fi,
Jim
I admire you! Opening up your soul like this. I have a book in my head but don’t know if I could put in on paper.
Thanks Al. It’s harder to do than most people think, particularly the rewriting and rewriting to try to get it right.
Pure fiction is easier to write because it only calls on creative and not memory…unless the memory stuff is ancillary to the story.
Semper fi,
Jim
“…strange, soft, metamorphic rock of the cliff face” might read a little better.. The rest of this segment flows as smoothly as the Bon Song. You polished awhile on this one.
Thanks Floyd for the advice and the compliment!
Semper fi,
Jim
Thank you.
You are most welcome Frank!!!
Semper fi,
Jim
We were resupply with CH 46. They would have big nets with a long rope suspending them from the chopper.. they could re supply about anywhere without touching the ground.. the net hit the ground, the rope released and the chopper was gone, cours it was different with medivac.. that didn’t happen while we had a hot LZ, but we did have the Army come In once to take the Kia and wia out because the Marine choppers wouldn’t come in on a hot Liz we had chopped out,,
Yes, we received several loads, called ‘pickles’ at the time, in this manner, but never under fire.
Usually, it was because there was no cleared landing zone.
The 46 took up a lot of space with the twin rotors, as you know.
Semper fi,
Jim
Every night I log on to see if there is another installment. What a gift when I find one!
Thanks a ton Steve. Means a lot to me to have such enthusiasm for the work.
Semper fi,
Jim
JIM LT As we roar through this new year (Year of the Pig) back to that in a minute.
I am glad to see your latest installment. You write things that make me stand up and take notice and remember. You have a way with the English/military language that melds both in a manner worth noting. I thank you for that. In 54 days I will celebrate the 48th anniversary of my Ides of March. I will use part of your writing. Your looking for my approval The Gunny said…… back in the real world ….I wouldn’t have needed The Gunny’s approval anything …. L needed His approval for just about everything. I also knew part of my talent was to know that, and get that approval !! I came up through the NCO ranks Some officers used all the tools available. (NCO’s) and many others wasted their resources. God Bless You and the Work of Your Hands
Thanks George for your own experiences, thoughts and also for the great compliment written deep into your comment.
Semper fi,
Jim
Kinda of a damned if u do and damned if u dont situation..im with u Lt. let the sky fall and hopefully collect the chips
That’s a pretty succinct way of describing the situation, yes. Thanks for that, Justin.
Semper fi,
Jim
Donated books 1and2 to my VA head dr with proviso that he should read and better understand patient comments. Was greeted with a 4 letter word phrase last month and praises to you an thank for the heads up from me!Go with God in peace
Wow. Thanks for that donation Tom.
I always wonder what those guys providing all the psychological care at the VA might think.
They see tons of vets of all kinds. What shapes their thinking about what happened over there in combat?
None or almost none of them were there or in the shit.
Do they get enough reality from the visiting vets to get it?
Semper fi,
Jim
What a great chapter this book keeps a person on edge every moment keep it up a ardent reader.
Thanks James for the unabashed compliment. I will keep on going to the best of my ability…
Semper fi,
Jim
Too short a segment. I don’t want the month to end but I get immersed in a segment then it stops! Keep them coming please.
Semper Fi
Thanks for that compliment SGT. I don’t make the segments short or long.
They just come out the way they come out, but you kinda know that anyway.
Thanks for the wanting more though.
Semper fi,
Jim
Thanks for this installment . I know that this part of the story is the hardest for you and will take time to let it out. I will be waiting . Semper Fi
Yes, the most emotional parts of the story, outside of the early crippling days of fear,
are indeed, the most difficult. It is also hard to admit that I did not always do the courageous or the right
thing when called upon. And then to write that down too.
Thanks for the understanding…
Semper fi,
Jim
You will feel released finishing , we all understand your apprehension, at this point and i think I speak for most, whatever you did and had to do, only reinforces our love and appreciation of you went through.
Thanks, Paul, it certainly is an exercise, the writing of the books, that has been quite a product of not only my writing but the comments on here that have kept it all going.
I cannot do anything but finish now, because it is not just about me anymore and I’m not sure how that all happened either…
Semper fi, and thank you most sincerely, of course.
Jim
“ if you live long enough, you’ll know too” such a passive statement for coruthers to hear , easy, so easy to dismiss as a very new person…… I wonder if his new mind could comprehend the shear gravity of those heavily true words….only then will he know what he’s up against in your a shau neighborhood. Fuck this story can’t be real…… I’m shocked that it is…..you guys deserve a righteous spot in Valhalla !
Life reduced to the simple things, and also to the fact that under such circumstance there is little point
explaining much of anything.
Like the guys in the Da Nang Hilton that first muddy night who would only look
at me with their big round eyes and not answer my questions.
What was the point? But it would take a while to come to understand.
No point in talking to the dead, or teaching the dead…
Semper fi,
Jim
Jim, I just reread these responses and then there is this “Like the guys in the Da Nang Hilton that first muddy night who would only look at me with their big round eyes and not answer my questions.”
Yes, Michael, I did write that, both now and then back at the beginning of the first book. The thousand yard stare that become famous
from the movie full metal jacket….and was, and remains real as hell…
Semper fi,
Jim
How are you going to top this?
what they said, plus a couple minor issues: in paragraph 15 or so the last sentence: “But that didn’t mean they’d left the area open for repossession on our part. It might mean that they’d registered every square foot of the defensive position to fire B-40 rockets, and fire what .50 caliber bullets they’d caged together straight into our position.”
Would you have meant “cadged” implying scraped together?
Cripes, there was another one, a questionable comma but I can’t find it now, even after re-reading several times. Maybe I dreamed it.
Your writing passes all superlatives and continues to improve if that’s even possible. This last is like a living thing, stuck in my memory.I can just see them talking at the end, the long pause when Gunny realizes the subterfuge Junior has hatched.
Hoping you are well.
Thanks Tom, for the great detail, the help and the compliments you have written into all of it.
Semper fi,
Jim
Now I know why this chapter has been longer in arriving than previous. You ratchet up tension in a logarithmic fashion – wow!
James, I know the writing is difficult for you, I can feel that. Thank you for suppressing the goolies.
” it might be more accurate to say that we are their Marines, sir.”
True words. May God Bless You. Semper Fi, my friend.
Yes, the chapters closer to the end are more difficult. Never saw that coming, either.
Thanks for understanding and for writing about it on here…
Semper fi,
Jim
If it wasn’t that way then it wouldn’t matter would it Lt? Hang tough Sir
Yes, I guess you have a point there, Paul. Thanks for the wake up call…
Semper fi,
Jim
I’m gonna leave it for you to decide who but…I like this guy!
As hard as it is to grapple with, at the end of the day every day, each and every one of us chooses whether it was we utilized our brain or our heart. Rare are those moments when, for a moment of reflection, we realize choosing one over the other is the surest way to fail. My guess is that Junior’s truest talent was in realizing acting on both assured not that they’d win…yet, only that they for damned sure, refused to lose.
Another amazing chapter Lieutenant! I for one appreciate not only the depth of an author’s use of the written word, but for the depth of meaning I continue to find within yours, especially.
Semper fi,
ddh
D.D. you are something else and I cannot thank you enough for your contributions.
Helps to know you, too…
Semper fi,
Jim
DD, very well stated!
DD is a class act for a wandering soul of the desert barren. What a mind.
What an ability to put that mind into action on paper. Fun to read what he writes.
Semper fi,
Jim
Yes,,, ‘We are their Marines…’ says it all. Absolutely all.
Yes, when I remembered that line I knew it had to be the last of the segment. Funny how the reality is so different than what so many
people (hence the mythology) think.
Semper fi,
Jim
Tension builds. Finished books 1 & 2. Waiting on no. 3 great job Sir.
Yes, we are on the 25th night. Not too far to go now. Thanks for maintaining your interest and support and, of course
for buying the first two books!
Semper fi,
Jim
Thank you for another fine story! I believe i saw your photo in Purdue alumni magazine???
Thanks for writing that on here Frank! And thanks for the compliment…
Semper fi,
Jim
Thank you, Sir.
You are most welcome, as usual, Mike….
Semper fi,
Jim
Where can I get the 3rd part? Already got the other 2.
Thanks for having the other two, John. I am not done withe remainder of the remainder, so to speak.
But soon. Thanks for caring and inquiring here…
Semper fi,
Jim
Strong emotional scene. Great pace and suspense is building. Got me in my center
Thanks for the terrific compliment James. Means a whole lot to me, especially written on here in front of our little world.
Semper fi,
Jim
James,
I flew under the GT line fairly often, but never put in a strike in the impact area….still nerve wracking….I saw a Chinook that took a 105 round in one side, and out the other…it either didn’t arm, or was a dud because it didn’t go off when it went through the very thin aluminum sheet metal….hangin’ in with you,
Bill..Cobra/Chinook guy…
Running around under the gun target line is a nervous endeavor. Of all battlefield weapons, artillery was by far the most brutal and effective killer
of any exposed personnel, friendly, or otherwise.
Thanks for your illuminating comment.
Semper fi,
Jim
LT. Spent a Year with the 159th Heavy Lift Battalion of the 101st Airmobile in Flight Operations Center. Given your remarks about Ch-46 Chinooks, I am sure Marine Pilots have a similar back story, our 159th Pilots had two or three Tours behind them by 1970, some in Huey’s others Little Bird OH-6. They had one common trait, when called they took the mission, even if it was above the call of duty, sure like anyone a few did not answer, but I wrote up the Mission outlines, our missions always stated any Fire Mission. I must say I was unaware of the loophole of Nets of Army vs Marine Fire Missions. I remember over that year of re-supply missions into Firebases under attack, used to have Pilots Lined up to fly into those Bases under Fire. Usually it was the Commanders whom held them back, I can not say that I knew any Pilot from Four Companies I worked with whom would not answer the Call to Aid Fellow Americans. Just Saying, they would not have it any other way, as big a target as a Chinook was, they were the best Helicopter, even now, speed, power, capacity, altitude,up until today. So if your at all feeling guilt, remove it, these Pilots all had wide open eyes, do not diminish their courage. I sat with them for hours talking, some World War II Pilots, Korea, all Professional and Committed. My Wall Maps of our Area of Operations included Firebases in the A Shau Valley, over my year tour we spoke of those Firebases, the Pilots, History of the Companies of Chinooks as they moved to form the 159th Battalion. JFYI these Chinook Pilots tried to create a Gunship out of their Chinooks, the U.S. Army Command voted them down, but they sure loaded it up with lots of weapons, and armor. Thanks James…
I am here because of helicopters and the men who flew them. I do not seek to diminish their service and
outright heroism time after time under fire. There are occasions, however, that pass outside the scope fo the general behavior and consideration.
The CH-46 could carry so much, drop out of the sky so fast and then get the hell out of Dodge so quickly that it was the workhorse of
both resupply and medivac. The Huey could not haul that much although there were so many more of them.
Thanks for the in depth comment.
Semper fi, and many thanks,
Jim
“JFYI these Chinook Pilots tried to create a Gunship out of their Chinooks”
There was a company of 6 chinook gunships in the CAV called “Guns a go-go” I was in line maintenance working on the Cavs Chinooks @ the Golf course in Ankhe including these. These guys were fearless. we were constantly changing blades that got shot up.
Yes, the chopper pilots and crew were pretty damned good and dependable as hell, even when command made it difficult for them.
Thanks for the great comment supporting them…
Semper fi,
Jim
What a spot between a rock and hard spot.
Not uncommon in combat situations back then. Maybe a bit easier in open country
but I never fought in open country, like Iraq or Afghanistan. Those guys and gals would have to answer questions about that.
Semper fi,
Jim
James, What’s the name of the plan?? I am running out of superlatives to compliment you on your writing of your experiences. The attention to detail and the absolute raw courage show by you and your men is beyond belief. God bless and I hope you will not be leading the Re-supply detail. When is command going to open their eyes to your situation?
That’s pretty funny Chuck, because I thought the same thing when I wrote the segment. I cannot remember! I didn’t want to just make one up.
So, for writing purposes I left that out. Leave it to one of you guys to pick up on that right away!
Semper fi,
Jim
Incredible stuff sir! Amazing how fast your transformation went from being a scared kid to a confident leader!
Yes, it was amazing to slowly be able to do exactly what the Gunny predicted, if I lived.
I wonder if his comment about staying so long in the combat theater that you came to like it would have happened.
He also said that getting to like that awful stuff and life did not have a way back or out.
Semper fi,
Jim
Waiting for each chapter is excruciating! Your story telling is riveting! You need to write faster! …………uh……..with all due respect ………sir!
Thanks Steve, means a lot to me to get such compliments…
Semper fi,
Jim
When will the book be available on Amazon? I have read the first two. They transported me back to the Nam. I even smelled it again.
I am working on the final segments. I can’t really predict.
It could be a couple of months or more before the last of the three book series is out.
Thanks for the patience…
Semper fi,
Jim
Wow! I can feel the tension building in my stomach. Thank you for again sharing. Always at your own pace.
Blessings & Be Well
Thanks Dan, I lay it down as it went down, and as best I can.
Thanks for feeling the experience as you read…
Semper fi,
jim
This just gets more and more suspenseful. What great dialog. Thrilling writing. Keep it coming, Sir!
Thanks a ton Bob, for that great compliment and for writing it on here for all to see…
Semper fi,
Jim
Glad that you are back writing about your experiences in the A Shau valley so many years ago yet you just have to close your eyes to recall that dreaded place burned into your memory. I spent time on a FSB at the northern end overlooking the A Shau and Marine camp and LZ Vandergrift.
The last line you wrote in the chapter was great. It tells a lot about you and your understanding of the Marines taking care of you.
Thanks for the support in the Nam Ed! Those guys up on high sure made a difference, from artillery, to resupply, and even directing fire.
Appreciate that fact that you appreciate the writing too….
Semper fi,
Jim
The Cat is an engaging story, but i’m guessing it and everything else you do will be measured against Thirty Days. Awesome writing!
I presume you’re are correct.
I started 30 Days with no such thoughts, however.
I was writing it as filler for a new author’s website.
I had no idea that so many men went through what I went through,
or that the rest that did not would care quite so much about what it was like down
in the gorgeous pit of vomit and misery called the A Shau Valley.
I smile when I write the Cat and Island in the Sand.
I do not smile writing 30 Days.
Semper fi, and thanks for that insight recorded on here…
Jim
And there it is LT.. “We are their Marines”… A revelation that some officers never understand. As a group, soldiers are possessive of their leadership even when they sometimes hate the leader himself.
I wager you would have been an awesome Battalion Commander.
I wonder. About the battalion commander thing.
I wonder if I would not have been cashiered.
I am not sure that anyone could come out of what I did and then not be kicked right out of the Corps
for trying to apply real support and command.
It just wasn’t set up for that.
But I wonder, too. And thank you for the great compliment.
Semper fi,
Jim
Another great segment James have you thought about contacting HBO or Showtime about doing a series on Thirty Days? It would be better than any they have done. Thanks again for sharing your story and your service!
No way will they ever even take a call. I am not family. I am no associate. They don’t do business with outsiders unless it is scabs and they deny
doing business with those. Besides, you think the military is going to lend their equipment to make a movie from something that runs so against the
mythology they push at all times? I don’t think so.
Anyway, thanks for the great compliment. I have to self-publish everything on Amazon and Barnes and Noble…
Semper fi,
Jim
Anticipation may actually be heightening the experience you are describing and it was a welcome read today. I am seeing the words of a man becoming a combat veteran. Some describe it with words like seasoned, or, hardened, but I am very reluctant to characterize you or your leadership in that way. Your Gunny is the cement of the unit and he is wise enough to have learned from the past weeks with you. He is the man seasoned in years of service learning very quickly from your quick adaptation of your special skills. Somewhere in his mind may be thoughts like, “who is this guy”, and or “how does he figure out ways out of the shit”. And with that, I wait like so many others to see how you get out of the shit for one more night. God Bless, James. Poppa J
As usual, Poppa, erudite, deep and interesting critique. The way it was and yet the way it almost could not have been.
Sometimes I wonder about the reality of all of that down in the valley stuff. Like down the rabbit hole, and then surfacing again
and back to the real world. What the hell was that, anyway? Band of Brothers tried to match what really happens in combat but
it was about as real as West Wing was to the real thing in the White House, or the Disney ride ‘Pirates of the Caribbean’ compared to the real
thing. Thanks for the compliment of caring enough to write so much…
Semper fi,
Jim
awe…
Half a word compliment…only you, Sheridan…
Semper fi, and thanks,
Jim
Damn. Thank you for being willing to to re live hell in A Shau Valley.
Semper Fi
Well, I wasn’t exactly willing at the time, but time does heal a lot
and also allow for redemption and accommodation.
Thanks for the kind words.
Semper fi,
Jim
Thanks for your continued work!
Thanks Terrance. I am writing away today and very encouraged by all the comments…including your very own…
Semper fi,
Jim
Thank you, James for sharing another heart wrenching chapter.
God Bless You as you continue writing.
Stay Strong.
Nancy
Thanks again for your support, Nancy
Semper fi,
Jim
Finally someone who knows the weight of a 175 round without me having to teach them.
Yes, there is some stuff that is just imprinted indelibly from an experience like down in the A Shau.
You remember stuff when your life is on the line. Thanks for pointing that out.
Semper fi, and thanks for the credibility reassurance…
Jim
I was with the 3/18th in the southern I corps in 69/70 and we often fired supporting fire for the Marines with 175’s and 8 inch guns. I was with the FDC
I remember being introduced to FADAC, the first FDC computer.
It was supposed to go to the FDCs using eight inch but I never saw it operate in the field.
You guys did amazing feats of approximation and analytic performance to deliver the goods over there.
I wonder what it’s like today, with GPS and laser and the rest.
Semper fi,
Jim
May God be with you as you wrestle with writing the next episode…
Already on it, and His help is applied, I am certain. Not to mention a whole lot of supporting vets like you on here, I might add. Makes a big difference.
Semper fi, and thanks…
Jim
Great update LT.
Thanks Craig. I wonder when I am done whether the guys and gals on here will be as interested in what happened after…
Semper fi,
Jim
Yes, Yes we will.
Good to get your reply….thanks…
Semper fi,
Jim
You bet we will! We have been here since day one, book one. Most of us own those as well. We will see this through if it is written!
Thanks Bob. I am actually writing a segment tonight and tomorrow so as to sort of ‘double tap’
this particular period and area of the story…
Semper fi, and thanks so much for your undying support…
Jim
Yes! We will definitely be interested in what happened after the A Shau. You have drawn us all in and we feel like extended family to you.
Thank you Chris. Actually, it was like God plucked me from that valley hell and landed me in
Southern California to report in to the very commanders that had sent me to the Nam in the first
place. How weirdly ironic. They were so remote at that high level that I could not even hold the decisions
against them!
thanks for the support and the compliment.
Semper fi,
Jim
Yes we will!
Thanks a load Greg, I shall endeavor to persevere…
Semper fi,
Jim
LT. You give us a Voice, been outa NAM 48 years, over that time besides a few chat’s with fellow Veterans of Vietnam, no real chance of speaking of our experiences. Thanks for your Books and side bar Chats. Nothing like this has been available to our Tour of Duty…
Thanks George, much appreciate the compliment. The site came about accidentally, really.
I had no idea that so many vets from over there would speak up by writing on here, myself included!
Semper fi,
Jim
Chief Dan George said to Jose Wells “I shall endeavor to persevere”. This saying seems more of a fit in your situation. Hang in there LT.
God, but I love that movie. So like real combat.
And Josie was so miserable having to play that role…from the screenwriters view.
Thanks for making that comparison. The Chief was my favorite character.
Semper fi,
Jim
Loved hearing from you, made my day. Go Patriots
You are most welcome John. You are a class act…
Semper fi,
Jim
Finished reading this, sat quietly and within seconds found myself singing “Fortunate Son”… Respects
Man oh man, the lyrics of that song play through my head more times than you might think. Great comment here…
And thanks for the compliment inherent within them…
Semper fi,
Jim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7qkQewyubs
Great chapter, James. Good to have you writing again.
Thanks Mike, I am hard at it again. Heading toward the end, or the end of the beginning for me…but not many more…
Semper fi,
Jim
You write in a manner that causes immediate return to the Valley upon reading teh first line….the time span between posts means nothing….
thanks for you patience and understanding on here Chrly. Yes, I wish I was more ‘right on’ when it cames to getting the words down.
But here it is…best I’ve got when I’ve got it…
Semper fi,
Jim
You nailed it with the last line.
That line meant a lot to me at the time and that never changed. When I sat on disability working as a judge
on court martial at Camp Pendleton I could not convict guys just returned from the Nam for ridiculous violations of
Marine conduct rules. I finally got dumped off that job…I could never again think that the Marines under me or lower in rank
worked for me. I worked for them, and then they took care of me…
Semper fi,
Jim
Having been in Danang with a Navy Spads squadron, I made many friends from those out in the field. I learned leadership from several excellent officers….all true leaders….made leaders because they assured that those under them got what was needed in order to complete the mission. They were not “dictators”.
thanks for the comment Kenneth, although I’m not sure what the reference to ‘dictators’ means or how
you intend it.
Semper fi
Jim
It has been a long time. But I have not had to re-live and agonized over every word and sentence. Great job LT.
Thanks Bob, means a lot to me just how deeply some of this is accepted, taken and then handled by the guys and gals reading…
Semper fi,
Jim
Very good JAMES !! GOD BLESS and keep going !!!!
Thanks Harold. Thanks for the help you give me…and so many others too. I do not think I could have done this alone.
In fact, I didn’t really know what I was doing when I started. You on here gave it all form and allowed me to express it…
Semper fi,
Jim
Another outstanding installment Lt! For what it’s worth I don’t think you ever need to apologize for the timing of these posts. They are gold and you give them to us for free while you (and the vets on here)paid an incalculable price to experience them.
Thanks ‘e,’ and I understand how hard it is for some guys to wait too…even though I put these up for free before putting them into the books for sale.
It’s the nature of the beast. PTSD has impatience about everything driven deep into its core.
Semper fi,
Jim
Another cliffhanger. Thank you sir. No excuses needed for the delay.
Thanks Phil, for the compliment and the patience to wait…
Semper fi,
Jim
This plan is 1 part genus and one part insane. Well done Lt.
Yes, I was insane, and I guess a bit of a genius doing something almost nobody wants to be a genius at.
I remember a job interview when I go out. It was for an insurance job. The guy asked me, out of the blue, what I was best at doing in the world. I told him the truth: “calling artillery.”
I didn’t get the job.
Thanks for the comment.
Semper fi,
Jim
Glad your back!!! I miss these breaks of reality from my mudane problems! Thank you!
Thanks Dan, thanks for the compliment and the patience to wait for the segment…
Semper fi,
Jim